In a thought-provoking episode of Brett McKay’s Art of Manliness podcast, Atlantic writer Derek Thompson challenges the popular narrative of a “loneliness epidemic” sweeping across America. The conversation, titled “No, There Isn’t a Loneliness Epidemic (And That May Be an Even Bigger Problem),” delves into something potentially more concerning: the growing trend of young men retreating into isolated, sedentary leisure activities dominated by screens and digital entertainment.

Thompson argues that while traditional metrics of loneliness haven’t dramatically increased, what has changed is how people—particularly young men—spend their solitary time. Rather than experiencing painful loneliness that might motivate social connection, many have found comfortable isolation through endless digital entertainment options. This “comfortable retreat” from social life creates a self-reinforcing cycle where social skills atrophy from lack of use, making future social interactions seem even more daunting and less rewarding.

The discussion takes a particularly illuminating turn when Thompson and McKay explore practical ways to strengthen our “social muscles.” They suggest that, like physical exercise, maintaining social connections requires consistent effort and sometimes pushing through initial discomfort. Simple practices like scheduling regular social activities, creating recurring gatherings with friends, or joining community organizations can help rebuild these essential skills. For parents concerned about their children’s screen time and social development, the conversation offers valuable insights on modeling healthy social habits and creating environments where genuine human connection can flourish.

Listen to the full interview on The Art of Manliness podcast.